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The Bible does not say that Zipporah was from the
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The wife of Moses was a Cushite, according to the Book of Numbers 12:1. Exagoge 60-65 by Ezekiel the Tragedian (fragments reproduced in Eusebius) has Zipporah describe herself to Moses as a stranger in the
"Stranger, this land is called
Also, “Scholars like Johann Michaelis and Rosenmuller have pointed out that the name
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I hate to say it, but you are repeating a common argument presented by opponents of polygamy, regarding Zipporah and the Ethiopian woman as being the same woman. They are not. And a little closer attention to the detail of scripture will demonstrate that these woman come from different countries and different lineages.
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Not according to my research.
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The first wife of Moses (Zipporah) is the daughter of the priest of Midian. It is important that we understand that she is a Midianite and the Midianites are descendants of Abraham.
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Jethro is called a priest of Midian and became father-in-law of Moses after he gave his daughter, Zipporah, in marriage to Moses, not a Midianite.
Jethro, priest of Midian, and father-in-law of Moses, is "said" to have been a Kenite, but merely live in the
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Midian is located south of
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True, but so was
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Yes, but keep reading, “The existence of the historical
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The Midianites are the descendants of Midian a son of Abraham and Keturah.
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Really, what does that prove? Jethro only lived among them, he was a Kenite.
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The Kenites?
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The Kenites are not pure Midianites. They only lived among them, as far as I can tell. Careful research will show that Kenite clans were distributed all over the ancient world. As far north as
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In Genesis 25:1-2 we read, “Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and
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So? Again, what does that prove? Jethro only lived among them, he was a Kenite.
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This is necessary to establish that Zippora is not confused with his Ethiopian wife in Numbers 12. Many assume that the numbers 12 wife is Zipporah. However, the Numbers 12 wife is clearly a Cushite or Ethiopian which was a descendant of Ham, whereas Midian, a son of Abraham, was a descendant of Noah’s son Shem. Thus, these would not be the same women.
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Same o same o
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“And the sons of Ham;
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Yep, that’s right.
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Zipporah was not from
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Well, since she was, I believe the same person we have been referring to as Moses’ wife, I believe she was. The point is Mike, you guys are straining at a nit to prove a point. I just don’t see it. It goes against solid historical research, only part of which I have given.
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When we understand that Jethro and his daughters did not come from Cush/Ethiopia, but from Midian, two separate peoples and regions, we are able to understand that the Ethiopian woman of Numbers 12 is not Zipporah the daughter of Jethro a Midianite priest. She was clearly identified as a Cushite, a desendant of
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Not so clear to me.
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Are we looking for God's truth which causes scripture to fully harmonize?
Or do we seek the approval of those who expect us to believe as they do?
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Far as I am concerned scripture does harmonize. There you go again, Mike, pointing a finger, questioning someone’s courage. Stop it! Quit playing God. Be nice. God is big enough to handle my conscience.
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Accepting and teaching the truth of biblical polygamy would cost many ministers their ministries and their financial support. They have much to lose.
We all have the right to be wrong,,, and where shall we stand
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What has that got to do with the price of tea in
Yeah, I have a right, but not a desire to be wrong on anything, particularly things pertaining to God.
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At the bema seat, where all of our works are tried to see if they are wood hay & stubble, or silver and gold. I do not care if the majority want to believe and teach the same traditions of man. It takes man of God to stand for and preach all of God's truths, especially the truths that might cost a man his esteem and his following.
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I think I lost all my fear of men when I was a kid preaching on the street corner with all of my class mates walking by jeering. I’ve got self esteem, but no following. Sad to say. And, if I did, I would turn them around and point them to Jesus and ask them to follow him.
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I do not believe the New Testament teaches monogamy only. I believe that is a tradition of man based on misunderstanding of scripture. I believe
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Huummmm. Guess we must disagree on that. No, I really think that what often happens is that we many times subconsciously try to justify our own idiosyncrasies or foibles.
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Wednesday, October 27, 2010
Was Moses Polygamous?
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